Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Cold War

I am running my very first Warhammer Fantasy tournament in January, at Pandemonium in Garden City MI. The tournament package is posted at Pandemonium Game Store and at Shenanigans Hobby and Game Center, but here it is as well:

We've all had some time to get used to the new edition of Warhammer, now lets get to bashin! This is a 2500 point Warhammer Fantasy Battles tournament. The tournament will consist of THREE rounds of gaming. Tournament scoring will be based on battle points earned during your games, as well as scoring for your army composition, painting and appearance, and sportsmanship during games.

January 22, 2011

Pandemonium, Garden City, Michigan. Pandemonium is located at 1858 Middlebelt, which is 2 blocks south of Ford Road, on the east side of the street. Pandemonium's phone number is (734) 427-2451.

Brad Schwandt

Tournament Registration / Fee
The maximum size of the event is 30 players. Registration is $15 due on the day of the event. Army lists MUST be preregistered with the organizer by 11:59PM January 15th. Event sign-up and list registration may be done by emailing

Awards and/or prizes will be awarded for the following categories:
Best Overall (Tournament Champion)
Best General (Combined Battle Points and Composition)
Best Sportsman
Best Army (Combined Appearance and Composition)

Players must bring all materials needed to play including: Dice, measuring device, templates, models, rule books, army books, FAQs, etc. Bring a pen or pencil and a calculator to figure out victory points.

10:00am to 10:45am Registration
11:00am to 1:30pm Round 1
1:30pm to 2:30pm Lunch break, Appearance Judging
2:30pm to 5:00pm Round 2
5:15pm to 7:45pm Round 3
7:45pm to 8:00pm Calculate Final Scores
8:00pm to 8:15pm Awards

Army Lists
You must bring at least FIVE copies of your army list that are clearly legible and lists out all the details of your characters and units. Players must hand one copy into the judges and provide a copy of their list to their opponents at the conclusion of each round. Army Builder printouts are acceptable (but players are responsible for double checking points costs there are sometimes errors in the files especially for newer armies!).

The default in regards to army lists for this tournament is that army lists will be exchanged for review with your opponent before each game (e.g. this is a open list tournament). If you are using hidden models (e.g. assassins, fanatics, etc) you must include them on your army list, but do not have to assign them to a specific unit on the army list. Prior to the start of each game you must write down which unit the hidden models are assigned to and hand it in to the judges. Alternatively, if both players agree, games may be played using closed army lists.

Army Requirements and Restrictions
(A) You must use the same army list for each game.
(B) Players may field an army of up to 2,500 points and not a point more! Regardless of size, the armies will use the requirements and allowances for 2,500 point armies (i.e. 25% Core Choices, no more than 25% Lords allowed, etc.)
(C) Armies do not have to be painted (but players are highly encouraged to do so as painting / appearance is part of the tournament scoring!)
(D) WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get) is in effect. For characters all weapons and armour should be modeled. Units must have a majority of the models making up a unit armed correctly (it is permissible per the main rules to have a minority of the models armed differently).
(E) Remember that for wizards with a choice of magic lores, you must indicate which lore each wizard will be using for the entire tournament on your army list.
(F) No Special, Named, or Unique characters are allowed (Teclis, Queek, Archaon, etc). If you have any questions about specific characters, contact the tournament organizer.
(G) There are 2 banned items: Power Scroll and Book of Hoeth

Each participant in the tournament will play three battles. These scenarios will be based out of the 8th Edition rulebook and it is encouraged that players create lists that will be able to run operate within those scenarios. Players may earn up to 20 points each battle, based on a 20-0 scoring system. There will also be bonus points based on scenario modifiers worth up to 4 points each round.

Nobody likes to participate in Warhammer events with people who behave (or smell!) like River Trolls. To encourage everyone who participates in the tournament to act in an appropriate manner, each participant may earn up to 15 points for good sportsmanship. Your opponents will be scoring you in this category.

Armies do not have to be painted, however, each participant may earn up to 15 points for the appearance and completion of their army. The points are awarded by the judges and may include the following criteria: Is your entire army painted? Is your entire army based? How much conversion work is done in the army? Are there details in the army that bring it together as a cohesive force? Was extra time and effort put into the character models? Is the army on a display board?

Each player will also be rated on his army composition after each match by his opponent. This will earn up to 10 points towards your tournament score, based on the criteria: Is this a well balanced and enjoyable list? Is this an average list that I would play against regularly? Is this list utter cheese / filth / beardiness?

Only the following armies are permitted at this tournament. Note that players may only field armies from the current version of each of the Warhammer Army Supplements.

- Warhammer Armies: Beastmen
- Warhammer Armies: Bretonnia
Daemons of Chaos
- Warhammer Armies: Daemons of Chaos
Dark Elves
- Warhammer Armies: Dark Elves
- Warhammer Armies: Dwarfs
- Warhammer Armies: Empire
High Elves
- Warhammer Armies: High Elves
- Warhammer Armies: Lizardmen
Ogre Kingdoms
- Warhammer Armies: Ogre Kingdoms
Orcs & Goblins
- Warhammer Armies: Orcs & Goblins
- Warhammer Armies: Skaven
Tomb Kings
- Warhammer Armies: Tomb Kings
Vampire Counts
- Warhammer Armies: Vampire Counts
Warriors of Chaos
- Warhammer Armies: Warriors of Chaos
Wood Elves
- Warhammer Armies: Wood Elves


  1. Not trying to start a huge e-drama debate, but why comp and sportsmanship scores?

  2. I am surprised at the comp score, also. I can understand it for a larger tourney, not that I like it, but for a 30 player, one day tourney, it seems a bit over the top.

  3. Because a lot of the players in the area like them. There are no restrictions on lists other than the two items and special characters, so if you want to bring 2 hydras or 2 hell pit abominations you will be possibly penalized for it by the other players rather than be banned from even bringing it to begin with.

    I'm not a fan of any comp, but it's what players want that I have seen according to feedback I got before writing the tournament pack.

    Another local tournament with more strict comp than this at the same venue this November is already sold out.

  4. I will also do a survey at the event whether players liked the pack, and probably add or drop certain things. The current pack is finalized, but it doesn't stop the next one from dropping comp completely... or adding to it.

    I definitely appreciate the feedback.

  5. The main problem with comp and sportsmanship is that it is very dependent upon the outcome of the game. If I smash someone and then ask them to vote for me for 'best haircut' They will probably not do it.

    I would suggest you have comp judging before the match, and if a sheet is not turned in, it is assumed that the rating is 'average'. That prevents the post-game anger being reflected in comp scores.

    To limit the effect of sportsmanship, I would give everyone a 'best haircut' vote for one player. That would add to that persons total, but not detract from anyone else. Sure, that means if you are a jerk, you do not get penalized, but I assume Fantasy is a game played by adults.

    If you feel it really necessary, you could give everyone an optional 'worst haircut' vote that they can choose to use immediately after a round that detracts from a single player. That prevents chipmunking, because you, as TO, can immediately determine the issue and if corrective action needs to be taken.

  6. I'm working 8 hours and then have an 8 hour internship today, but when I get home I will post up what I have. All players start with 5 Sportsmanship points, and there are 5 things you can lose a point for that I felt were important to having a pleasant game of Warhammer. It's a simple system and there is no number without reason. If you get less than 5 points, you did one of those things wrong.

    Comp is a 3 point system per game. 0 = horrible list. 1 = very hard list, not meant to be friendly. 2 = average list, would play again regularly. 3 = very comp conscious list, well composed. Doing this scoring before the game rather than after is a good idea.

  7. Cross posted, I'd love to come but I'm not sure I'll know the system well enough yet.


  8. Congrats on placing in the GW tourney! Also Congrats on starting a tournament in your area! I started a blog and was wondering what advice you would give to a newb blogger. I have enjoyed reading your posts and have been inspired to start a blog. I was wondering what advice you would give to a newbie blogger and also a rededicated WFB gamer. Thanks for your time and effort!

  9. Shoot me an email with any and all questions you have, and I will be happy to answer them.

  10. I sent an email to the email address above ( on monday

  11. Sorry kdawg, it was hiding in my Spam folder.